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ffemt posted the following on Tuesday 8th April 2008
The problem with mouth to mouth is that you still have to pause compressions to get the breath into the patients lungs. It takes good technique to make it work. None of use gets enough practice from doing something once every two years as a refresher and I've been refreshing at it for ever 20 years.
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I've been refreshing for over 20 years as well, I got my first certification in 1983 or 1984, so again I understand exactly what you're saying, and I think we going to have to agree to disagree to some extent on this issue.
Probably the most important point is that we are at least willing to get involved at all where so many people aren't these days.
Mike
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hangtight
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so what is in your first aid kit?
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iodine antiseptic, gauze, white tape and tweezers. for simple cuts.
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i suggest that you take first aid classes before you head out for the rocks, climbing is no joke, the height measurements are incredible and accidents are just there waiting to happen
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monkey
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i don't believe in painkillers that sort of thing, so i just have a power disinfectant, some gauze, some tape and a knife for when something goes really wrong just cut it off  kidding of course
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i do the same, depending on the crag, i add more.
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- cleaning wipes
- gauze
- tape
- popsicle sticks (for keeping fingers straight)
- swiss knife
- booze
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davey569
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i just bought a lifesystems first aid and primary care kit, added a few other things i might need and use that. works for me.
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Moblie phone for when you're really up the creek.
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since i'm new to climbing, i kinda have a small hospital as a first aid kid..heehee:
gauze, white tape, antiseptic, alcohol, cotton balls, tweezers....the list could go on. it's pretty heavy. maybe i'm just paranoid. what are the essentials i should bring?
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haha. my mobile phone is part of my car's tool kit as well
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chilli
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i wish my fckin phone would work anywhere that i might run into trouble. the thing doesn't get reception if i walk into a 2ft ditch!
anyway, the day trip med kit: tape, butterfly tape, antiseptic, a bit of non-stick dressing, and a pressure wrap (vet-wrap). i live in NC, so most of the places i climb have enough sticks for splints (honestly, i've used them before). i keep a couple of safety pins too, not so much for medical emergencies, but the things are handy, and they pull splinters nicely. i never go anywhere without my knife anyway.
i like the booze idea, speedclimber
seriously, a friend of mine carries, and uses, superglue.
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ffemt
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chilli posted the following on Sunday 25th November 2007
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seriously, a friend of mine carries, and uses, superglue.
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While it's rumored that was among the first use for superglue it really wasn't used for medical until almost ten years later. It's reported to have been used during the Vietnam war starting about 1966.
Mike
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I won't list everything in medical kit since you could basically perform field surgery with it. LOL
My wife and I both have fairly extensive medical backgrounds to the point of being able to put in IVs, stitches, etc.
Something I haven't seen anyone list in their medical kit that I do feel is an important addition depending on your area is a snake bite kit. In the southeast this a must have item in my opinion.
Mike
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ffemt
Technical Climber
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Points 189
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What is in your snake bite kit? Most ideas of a snake bite kit are no longer used. No cutting, no sucking, No tourniquets, no compression nor ice...
#1 don't panic.
#2 It's imperative that you get to a hospital as soon as possible.
#3 don't panic.
#4 Remove anything that could be constricting specially rings.
#5 don't panic.
#6 Someone already contacted Emergency Services, right? (911, 767, 999, 112...)
#7 don't panic
#8 You've already removed yourself from the area so you won't get bit a second time, right?
#9 Your getting the idea. It's not ODD (lol) to not panic. It will save your life.
#10 You are with a buddy and calming, NO RUNNING, getting yourself to either a hospital or where an ambulance can transport you, right?
If you've been able to follow this list you should be fine. Might have to spend a few nights, weeks who knows in a hospital and it's going to hurt like crazy. But you will likely live to tell about it.
Mike
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