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Sunday 12th August 2007 at 10:00:28 PM  

crazyedmagic
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hello. my name is ed i am 16 and just found out how much i love climbing. i went sport climbing with some friends. and just loved it. any way i need some help finding equipment. i need a harness and rope. and i have a tight budget. if u guys and gals could help me out that would be great.

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Monday 13th August 2007 at 1:38:05 PM  

cenewgent
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I just recently got into it myself. I'd suggest REI.com for some harness packages - Black Diamond has a harness/chalkbag/biner package that I picked-up cheap'ish. Shoes there are on sale a decent amount, as well, I wouldn't recommend any used gear as you don't exactly know its history. Look towards dropping 150-200 bones on gear, excluding rope, if you're just getting into it. Then, gym memberships, if you're looking to climb indoors when you can't outdoors, tend to run between 30-50. Hope this helps!

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Monday 13th August 2007 at 9:55:20 PM  

crazyedmagic
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thanks for the help

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Wednesday 15th August 2007 at 9:10:57 AM  

cenewgent
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no problem. sorry i couldn't help you out for cheaper gear. i mean, shoes and chalk bags you could go used on, even a used crash pad for bouldering. but, everywhere i've seen and everyone i've talked to said to not go used on life-saving stuff like ropes, harnesses, biners, etc.
hope you find some good deals!

Oh, what am I to think
of what the writing of a thousand lifetimes
could not explain
if all the forest trees were pens
and all the oceans - ink?
Saturday 1st September 2007 at 4:17:12 AM  

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Yeah I'd have to aggree that REI is probably going to be your best bet. I'm new myself and suggest that you go for the mid point on equipment. Your probably going to be replacing stuff alot, so don't over spend.  If REI doesn't fit your budget, try an Army Navy Surpluss.
 
Monday 3rd September 2007 at 3:37:31 AM  

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sorry to barge in like this, but i'm learning quite a lot from you guys. question though, how's the quality of the products in army surplus?

 
Tuesday 4th September 2007 at 8:43:03 AM  

cenewgent
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ah, never worry about "barging in". it's what forums are meant for. :)
as for quality of those products, i'm not sure. i'd imagine it just depends on whether they've been used or not and how old they are. given the stress that military gear is constantly put under for training and operations, i wouldn't imagine they'd use crappy gear. but, i'm not too studied up on the subject, so don't take my word for it. any of you more experienced folks know anything about it?

Oh, what am I to think
of what the writing of a thousand lifetimes
could not explain
if all the forest trees were pens
and all the oceans - ink?
Tuesday 4th September 2007 at 8:19:02 PM  

crazyedmagic
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hey what do u think of this starter pack

http://www.abc-of-rockclimbing.com/shopitems/harnesses

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Tuesday 4th September 2007 at 10:03:22 PM  

marcus22
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cenewgent posted the following on Tuesday 4th September 2007
. . .as for quality of those products, i'm not sure. i'd imagine it just depends on whether they've been used or not and how old they are. given the stress that military gear is constantly put under for training and operations, i wouldn't imagine they'd use crappy gear. . .don't take my word for it. any of you more experienced folks know anything about it?

yeah you're right, their gears are probably the toughest except of course if they're totally worn out from training for wars or whatnot.
 
Thursday 29th November 2007 at 11:30:04 AM  

slyder

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i'm also new at this, what equipments should i invest in? i really want to pursue climbing so i want to have equipments that are durable.
 
Thursday 29th November 2007 at 2:10:36 PM  

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slyder, if you're new to climbing then the best investment you can make is a class or some sort of instruction as to how properly and SAFELY rig for any sort of climb. If there are no classes available, then read books. Craig Luebben is a great author as far as instructional books. Mastering the Basic Skills is a great intro luebben book. once you start to build your knowledge, practice, practice, practice until you know the rigging and knots like the back of your hand. i was always told "the more tools (knowledge) you have in your toolbox (head), the less fancy gear you need."
as far as actual equipment, being new to climbing you want to have a few essentials:
-harness*
-chalk (and chalk bag)
-shoes*
-at least 2 locking carabiners (preferably one should be a HMS-pear)
-helmet*
-belay device* (stay away from the autoblocking ones for now)
*i can't make recommendations as to which brands are the best, but just try several out before you buy.
the above things should give you the ability to do gym climbing or go out with an EXPERIENCED climber for some TR work.
as far as gear is concerned for staying safe on top-rope climbs outdoors:
-small medkit
-4 non-locking carabiners and maybe a couple more lockers
-2 cords for prussik (or other friction) hitches and rap-backups: 1 ~10-12inch(30cm) closed loop and 1 ~17-20inch(43-51cm) closed loop, though sizes can vary depending on prefernce and task. YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO USE THESE!
-rope (60m dynamic - you can TR on static rope, but you may go on to lead later and you'll need a dynamic then)
-1inch wide tubular webbing for anchors (both belays and setting up TR) and to serve as safety tether LEARN &KNOW PROPER RIGGING WITH WEBBING! Note: you can use a daisy chain or PAS as a tether, but it's more $ and tubular webing works fine
-and a pack to carry all that crap
i'm sure i'm forgetting a couple things. i'll add later if i think of something
that being said, it's possible to rig a USSR with little more than two ropes and two non-locking biners which gets back to that key point: the more you know, the less you need. make sure you learn the safety basics well
hope this helps
climb safe, be well
-chilli
 
Thursday 29th November 2007 at 9:55:15 PM  

crazyedmagic
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WOW thanks for the list. first i plan on getting some shoes. then im getting the black diamond momentum AL harness package. i plan on climbing inside for a wile then after i build strength i will start to go outside. then when i go outside then i will buy ropes and what not.


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Monday 14th April 2008 at 8:57:20 AM  

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crazyedmagic posted the following on Thursday 29th November 2007
WOW thanks for the list. first i plan on getting some shoes. then im getting the black diamond momentum AL harness package. i plan on climbing inside for a wile then after i build strength i will start to go outside. then when i go outside then i will buy ropes and what not.

Hey brother,
I was just wondering how the millitary was going?

Tuesday 29th April 2008 at 12:32:26 PM  

stoned
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always think of your safety right. know the quality of an equipment especially if you have your life hanging, literally and figuratively.. i experienced that once when i was starting out, just had the urge to buy my own stuff.. looks the same as the expensive ones, so i bought it.. realizing later that even if it looks the same, still different. hey, we learn..
 
Tuesday 29th April 2008 at 2:02:04 PM  

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That Black Diamond Momentum package looks like a great deal, at a nice price too.

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